# Inside America's First 100% Renewable Diesel Program

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Published: 2026-01-20T13:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Joe Natale from Knight-Chemstar joins the show fresh off pulling off something pretty remarkable in Massachusetts - successfully running the first 100% renewable diesel pilot program for commuter rail locomotives in the country. He breaks down the wild logistics of moving renewable diesel from Midwest producers to New England, why heating oil is basically diesel's cousin, the bacon grease problem that happens when biodiesel gets cold, and why drop-in fuels make way more sense than ripping out all our infrastructure for electrification. Click here to watch a video of this episode. Join the conversation shaping the future of energy. Collide is the community where oil & gas professionals connect, share insights, and solve real-world problems together. No noise. No fluff. Just the discussions that move our industry forward. Apply today at collide.io Click here to view the episode transcript. 00:00 Joe's background from terminal operator to renewables 08:08 Development of Providence biodiesel rail terminal 14:06 Winning and executing the MBTA renewable diesel pilot 20:21 Sustainable aviation fuel distribution strategy 25:04 Breaking down fuel types: ethanol, diesel, heating oil 33:00 Northeast heating oil versus natural gas infrastructure 38:15 Renewable diesel logistics and clean heat standards 43:35 Drop-in fuels versus full electrification 51:05 Cloud point and the biodiesel gelling problem 55:33 Future of sustainable aviation fuel and incentives https://twitter.com/collide_io https://www.tiktok.com/@collide.io https://www.facebook.com/collide.io https://www.instagram.com/collide.io https://www.youtube.com/@collide_io https://bsky.app/profile/digitalwildcatters.bsky.social https://www.linkedin.com/company/collide-digital-wildcatters

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