# Tallying The Costs Of Being Undocumented

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Podcast: [Embodied](https://stenobird.com/podcast/embodied-477109)
Published: 2026-01-29T10:00:00+00:00
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After more than a decade living in the U.S. without permanent legal status, Alix Dick calculated the cost of her survival: $1.9 million. That figure includes everything from wage theft and underpayment to complex PTSD and under-the-table medical visits. Alix talks about those things with Anita as she discusses her new book “The Cost of Being Undocumented,” co-written with Stanford University professor Antero Garcia. Alix traces her personal story from growing up in Sinaloa, Mexico to fleeing to the U.S. with her younger brother when she was 20. She and Antero discuss misconceptions about undocumented workers, describe the challenges of telling Alix’s story, and talk about the many costs that didn’t make the tally sheet — like lost dreams. Meet the guests: - Alix Dick , activist, writer, filmmaker and co-author of " The Cost of Being Undocumented " - Antero Garcia , associate professor in the Graduate School of Education at Stanford and co-author of " The Cost of Being Undocumented " Read the transcript | Review the podcast on your preferred platform Follow Embodied on Instagram Leave a message for Embodied

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