# Lessons Learned From Loving Birds

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Podcast: [Embodied](https://stenobird.com/podcast/embodied-477109)
Published: 2026-01-22T10:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3026

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J. Drew Lanham’s life has been defined by birds. He grew up in rural South Carolina learning mystical stories about birds from his grandmother, emulating bird calls and even trying to fly. This love sparked Drew’s academic and creative careers — in ornithology and writing — that center nature and winged creatures. Anita talks to Drew about why he fell so deeply for birds and how he has sustained that love despite the challenges he's faced as a Black man and a conservationist. Meet the guest: - J. Drew Lanham is a poet, ornithologist and author of " The Home Place: Memoirs of a Colored Man’s Love Affair with Nature " Read the transcript | Review the podcast on your preferred platform Follow Embodied on Instagram Leave a message for Embodied Register for our five-year anniversary event

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