# Ep.1602 - The Five-and-Five and Ten Feet Away

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Podcast: [Elevate Construction](https://stenobird.com/podcast/elevate-construction-36348)
Published: 2026-05-15T08:51:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, Jason dives into a powerful logistics concept that can completely change how construction teams organize work in the field. He explains the "five-and-five" principle: can workers access everything they need within five steps and five seconds? along with the idea that all visual information and standard work should be understandable from ten feet away. What you'll learn in this episode: What the "five-and-five" principle means in construction logistics. Why all tools and materials should be accessible within five steps and five seconds. How visual systems should be readable from ten feet away. Why logistics not firefighting is the key to production flow. How strike zones, carts, shadow boards, and Kanban systems improve efficiency. Why the field is for installing work not figuring things out. Are your crews spending their time installing or searching, walking, and scrambling for what they need? If you like the Elevate Construction podcast, please subscribe for free and you'll never miss an episode. And if you really like the Elevate Construction podcast, I'd appreciate you telling a friend (Maybe even two 😊). Also, here are links to our YouTube Channels: · Jason Schroeder YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4xpRYvrW5Op5Ckxs4vDGDg · LeanTakt YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/leanTakt · LeanSuper YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzQDevqQP19L4LePuqma3Fg/featured · LeanSurvey YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-Ztn3okFhyB_3p5nmMKnsw

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