# El Niño Speaks 211: The Containment of Nationalism

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Podcast: [El Niño Speaks](https://stenobird.com/podcast/el-ni-o-speaks-5319778)
Published: 2026-06-26T16:10:49+00:00
Episode link: https://www.josealnino.org/p/el-nino-speaks-210-the-containment
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## Resource

In this episode of El Niño Speaks, José Niño sits down with David Clews of Unity News Network to break down how Reform UK and Restore function as pressure-release valves, not genuine nationalist options in British politics. Follow David Clews and UNN below: https://twitter.com/UnityNewsNet https://www.supportunn.co.uk/ NEXT: If you liked the show, feel free to continue supporting my work. Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/josenino This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.josealnino.org/subscribe

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