# 189. From Antiracism to Abolition with Abby Emerson

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Podcast: [Educator Forever](https://stenobird.com/podcast/educator-forever-5757634)
Published: 2026-06-17T11:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.educatorforever.com/
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## Resource

Dr. Abby Emerson is a former fifth-grade teacher and now an assistant professor of childhood education at Hunter College at the City University of New York. She is the author of the book, From Anti-Racism to Abolition: Professional Learning for Liberating Schools, which is a book coming out this fall for educators who are curious about how to better use professional development to work towards racial justice in schools. Abby and I take this episode to discuss seeing structural racism in our education system, among many other deep topics. If you want to see racial justice in education, you’ll want to tune in. For all links and resources mentioned in this episode, head to the show notes: https://www.educatorforever.com/episode189 .

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