# Holding groups, CMOs & Cannes with Charlotte Mceleny Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/earned-first-7353885/holding-groups-cmos-cannes-with-charlotte-mceleny Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/earned-first-7353885/holding-groups-cmos-cannes-with-charlotte-mceleny.md Podcast: [Earned First](https://stenobird.com/podcast/earned-first-7353885) Published: 2026-05-20T10:42:18+00:00 Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/earned-first/2843075 Audio file: https://content.rss.com/episodes/328453/2843075/earned-first/2026_05_20_10_22_46_0e77df75-6744-4d26-b05f-ed7fd0115f55.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/earned-first-7353885/episodes/holding-groups-cmos-cannes-with-charlotte-mceleny Duration seconds: 2399 ## Resource Charlotte Mceleny has seen the PR and marketing industry from both sides, through 15 years as a journalist, then inside a holding group at MediaMonks. In this conversation, she and Arun Sudhaman work through what's actually happening to the holding group model, why PR keeps failing the measurement test, what the CMO role is becoming under CFO pressure, and whether Cannes still means what it once did. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/earned-first-7353885/episodes/holding-groups-cmos-cannes-with-charlotte-mceleny/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/earned-first-7353885/holding-groups-cmos-cannes-with-charlotte-mceleny.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.