# 718. Money, Meaning, and Mortality w/ Rose Zealand

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Podcast: [Earn & Invest](https://stenobird.com/podcast/earn-invest-238116)
Published: 2026-03-23T07:05:00+00:00
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What a death doula can teach us about money, meaning, and making time count Most of us approach financial planning as if it’s purely a math problem. We reduce it to formulas and timelines: save a certain percentage, invest in the right accounts, retire at a specific age. It feels structured, predictable—almost controllable. But that sense of control depends on one fragile assumption: that life will unfold according to plan. What happens when it doesn’t? That question sat at the center of a recent conversation I had on Earn & Invest with Rose Zealand, a Certified Financial Planner and end-of-life doula. Her work lives at a crossroads most people spend their lives avoiding—the intersection of money and mortality. And once you hear her perspective, it becomes very difficult to see financial planning the same way again. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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