# Making Space for Play - A Conversation with Eugene Minogue Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/early-excellence-podcast-4357044/making-space-for-play-a-conversation-with-eugene-minogue Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/early-excellence-podcast-4357044/making-space-for-play-a-conversation-with-eugene-minogue.md Podcast: [Early Excellence Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/early-excellence-podcast-4357044) Published: 2026-06-12T09:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://anchor.fm/early-excellence Audio file: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/35eafc99-d7d5-4030-acc7-0a0212a4a640.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/early-excellence-podcast-4357044/episodes/making-space-for-play-a-conversation-with-eugene-minogue Duration seconds: 2578 ## Resource Play isn't a luxury — so why does it keep getting pushed to the margins? Re-release: Originally aired on 20 Feb 2026 Eugene Minogue, Interim Executive Director at Play England, joins us to discuss why play matters so much for children's development, the barriers standing in its way, and what a genuine cultural shift around play would look like. Episode Links Explore Play England's Official Website Listen to our Episode with Ruth Lue-Quee ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/early-excellence-podcast-4357044/episodes/making-space-for-play-a-conversation-with-eugene-minogue/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/early-excellence-podcast-4357044/making-space-for-play-a-conversation-with-eugene-minogue.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.