# What do war games reveal about Europe’s security future?

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Podcast: [DW Berlin Briefing - Inside German politics](https://stenobird.com/podcast/dw-berlin-briefing-inside-german-politics-7077761)
Published: 2026-07-17T12:32:00+00:00
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## Resource

What can a war game tell us about a real-world security crisis? In this episode of Berlin Briefing, DW’s Nina Haase speaks with Carolina Drüten, International Security Correspondent at WELT and creator of the podcast Ernstfall, based on a public war game simulating a Russian challenge to NATO's eastern flank and Roman Goncharenko, DW Eastern Europe Security Analyst and Correspondent.

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