# NATO under pressure: Can Germany be the European leader?

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Podcast: [DW Berlin Briefing - Inside German politics](https://stenobird.com/podcast/dw-berlin-briefing-inside-german-politics-7077761)
Published: 2026-06-26T10:55:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this Berlin Briefing special from the Global Media Forum, DW’s Nina Haase and Max Hofmann are joined by NATO expert Gerlinde Niehus and Maximilian Mayer from the University of Bonn to discuss: where does Germany hold real leverage and how can it help Europe become a strategic power?

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