# Hr2 - US Soccer’s Reality Check and the Michael Penix Jr. Tier Snub

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Podcast: [Dukes & Bell](https://stenobird.com/podcast/dukes-bell-227585)
Published: 2026-07-08T23:13:00+00:00
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In the 2nd hour of today's show, Dukes and Mark Zinno react to Landon Donovan’s assessment of youth soccer costs and discuss why the U.S. Men's National Team is the Wake Forest of international soccer. They also debate a controversial NFL quarterback tier list that excludes Michael Penix Jr. while highlighting the Atlanta Dream’s All-Star representatives and the latest Hawks Summer League news. 02:16 - Donovan on Soccer Costs 06:00 - US Technical Development 11:48 - Soccer Identity Comparison 20:40 - Quarterback Tier List Debated 32:24 - Atlanta Dream All-Stars 36:33 - Hawks Summer League 42:33 - Braves Recent Struggles

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