# ep15: radical change in small steps

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Podcast: [Dry Conversations](https://stenobird.com/podcast/dry-conversations-7334408)
Published: 2025-05-14T13:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2501994/episodes/17153582-ep15-radical-change-in-small-steps.mp3
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Duration seconds: 3501

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