# The Drum Panel: Jessica screams at Ben to shut up.

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Podcast: [Drummers on Drumming](https://stenobird.com/podcast/drummers-on-drumming-743881)
Published: 2026-04-29T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Welcome back to Drummers on Drumming, a podcast powered by Big Fat Snare Drum. I’m Ben Hilzinger, and this is another segment of The Drum Panel. Joining me: Jessica Burdeaux (@jburdsbeats) Touring drummer (Covet, City Mouth) and content creator balancing real-world gigs with online presence. George Martinez (@skinnygeorge) Former full-time studio drummer turned educator, content creator, and all-around thoughtful voice on longevity. In this episode: “It’s complicated” — how your relationship with drums changes over time The weird shift from loving music more than drumming itself Why chasing constant growth can actually burn you out Letting students (or bandmates) make their own mistakes The difference between chaos on tour vs. stability later in life Content creation vs. real life: what actually matters The pressure of the algorithm and why it messes with your head Posting what you should vs. posting what’s actually real Why documenting your own growth beats chasing views The moment Instagram stopped making sense for everyone Touring, playing live, and why that still beats the internet The balance between being a musician and being a human Saying no to gigs, content, or work that drains you Why stepping away actually makes you better when you come back The quiet insecurity of band feedback (trash can endings, anyone?) Being your own worst critic… and why that never really goes away What each of us is secretly proud of in our playing right now Groove, touch, and making simple parts feel really good Being easy to work with vs. being flashy Why feel, energy, and stage presence still get you hired --- Get Your Copy of the Drummers on Drumming Book Today! 🎯 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Click here to order now!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records,…

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