# James Gadson: The Groove Behind "Use Me," "Kissing My Love," "Dancing Machine," and More Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/drummers-on-drumming-743881/james-gadson-the-groove-behind-use-me-kissing-my-love-dancing-machine-and-more Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/drummers-on-drumming-743881/james-gadson-the-groove-behind-use-me-kissing-my-love-dancing-machine-and-more.md Podcast: [Drummers on Drumming](https://stenobird.com/podcast/drummers-on-drumming-743881) Published: 2026-04-08T07:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/BFSD5046172799.mp3?updated=1775631536 Audio file: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/BFSD5046172799.mp3?updated=1775631536 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/drummers-on-drumming-743881/episodes/james-gadson-the-groove-behind-use-me-kissing-my-love-dancing-machine-and-more Duration seconds: 2145 ## Resource This week’s episode is a special one. In light of James Gadson’s passing, I wanted to bring this conversation back to the top of the feed. James was one of the all-time greats, and getting to talk with him was a real honor. The audio is a little raw, he was on his phone, moving around, doing his thing, but the stories are gold, and honestly, that’s part of what makes it feel like James. Back when Big Fat Five was still the main format of the show, I asked James to bring in five records that shaped him. Instead, he flipped it and brought in songs he played on that shaped his career. That turned out to be even better. We get into the grooves behind Charles Wright and the Watts 103rd Street Rhythm Band’s "Express Yourself," Dyke and the Blazers, "Dancing Machine" by the Jackson 5, Bill Withers classics like "Use Me" and "Kissing My Love," Cheryl Lynn’s "Got to Be Real," and even Beck’s "Paper Tiger." Along the way, James talks about jazz, Motown charts, studio instinct, restraint, feel, pocket, practicing with intention, and why the hi-hat has to talk. This one is a reminder that a simple groove is not simple. It’s deep. And James Gadson was one of the deepest to ever do it. --- Get Your Copy of the Drummers on Drumming Book Today! 🎯 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Click here to order now!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big Fat Five format of digging into top influences, it’s packed with candid interviews and personal insights. Whether you’re just starting out or have been playing for years, this book is here to inspire you to sharpen your skills and find your own voice behind the kit. For more information on Big Fat Snare Drum, check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.bigfatsnaredrum.com⁠⁠⁠⁠… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/drummers-on-drumming-743881/episodes/james-gadson-the-groove-behind-use-me-kissing-my-love-dancing-machine-and-more/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/drummers-on-drumming-743881/james-gadson-the-groove-behind-use-me-kissing-my-love-dancing-machine-and-more.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.