# S6, E8: Driven by Data Dilemmas, Leadership Legends vs Leadership Lows w/ Dan Kellet, Chief Data Officer, Carmoola

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Published: 2026-03-10T05:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Today on the Driven by Data Dilemmas Show, host Catherine Dowden-King is joined by Dan Kellett, Chief Data Officer for Carmoola! Together they talk about Leadership Legends vs Leadership Lows! Dan walks through his thoughts on what makes a leader a legend, vs a loser! They discuss stories about candidates crying during interviews and team members making rookie errors. Dan shares some candid experiences of when it all went wrong, and he needed to walk away from his desk. Listen wherever you get your podcasts! Remember, you can send your own dilemmas to community@orbitiongroup.com, and Catherine will gladly read them to our expert guests to answer and provide their own insight on. Driven by Data Dilemmas is the spin-off show from the Driven by Data Podcast, released every Thursday. Catherine Dowden-King is joined by some of our best-loved senior leaders in the data, analytics and AI space to ask them to share their experiences, advice and thoughts on data dilemmas.

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