# Data Debrief: Social Media Ban, Buses & CDO Future

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Podcast: [Driven by Data: The Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/driven-by-data-the-podcast-1318403)
Published: 2026-06-18T05:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://driven-by-data-the-podcast.captivate.fm/episode/data-debrief-social-media-ban-buses-cdo-future
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## Resource

Welcome to another episode of the Data Debrief, the companion show to Driven by Data: The Podcast, where hosts Catherine Dowden-King and Kyle Winterbottom unpack Tuesday's episode, share what's been on their minds, and explore the realities of leadership, culture, and capability across the data and AI landscape. This week, Catherine and Kyle reflect on the conversation with David Krauza, VP of Enterprise Data Strategy, Products & Governance at Comcast, diving deeper into the "arts and crafts" trap that derails data programmes, the discipline of building stakeholder trust before you need it, and what it really takes to drive the bus rather than ride it. They cover: Why David's mandated business school module ended up shaping his outlook on data leadership, and the recurring pattern of guests whose commercial thinking was forged outside a purely technical background The "arts and crafts project" analogy David's boss used to describe technically impressive work that never moves the needle, and why naming the difference between process-enjoyment and outcome-focus matters as much in data as it does in any creative pursuit Why so much of the data and AI ecosystem gravitates toward exciting new models, tools, and techniques without tying the work back to specific goals, decisions, and KPIs David's framing that you have to help people before you need their help, and why the leaders who consistently land the biggest roles are the ones already putting into their networks and communities long before they need anything back Catherine's take on why this same principle defines external brand building, and why leaders who wait until they're job hunting to invest in relationships are always playing catch-up against those who started years earlier Kyle's view that building relation…

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