# COP Out: What the Heck Happened at COP30?

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Podcast: [Drilled](https://stenobird.com/podcast/drilled-860945)
Published: 2025-11-25T16:05:00+00:00
Episode link: https://omny.fm/shows/drilled/cop-out-what-the-heck-happened-at-cop30
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## Resource

We're bringing you episode 5 of Dana R. Fisher's COP Out podcast, from the Center for Environment, Equity and Community at American University, featuring our own Amy Westervelt and legendary climate scientist Dr. Katharine Hayhoe talking about what happened at this year's COP, whether the process is fixable, and how to get the benefits of global convening without all the headaches. Check out the rest of Dana's series here .   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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