# That Part with Naa Yirenkyi and Verta Maloney: Hidden Human Cost of What We Wear

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Podcast: [Dreamvisions 7 Radio & TV Network](https://stenobird.com/podcast/dreamvisions-7-radio-tv-network-1499552)
Published: 2026-09-04T13:23:34+00:00
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## Resource

The Hidden Human Cost of What We Wear Season 2, Episode 6 | That Part by 45 Lemons We asked the Black women in our lives a simple question: If you could talk about anything on a podcast, what would it be? Ngozi Okaro chose sustainable fashion as an anti-racist practice. What unfolds is a conversation about what our clothes say about us, and the people and systems we rarely see behind them. Verta, Naa, and Ngozi trace a line from cotton and enslaved labor to today's garment industry, exploring race, gender, exploitation, overproduction, and the often invisible labor behind what we wear. But this isn't about becoming the perfect ethical shopper. It's also about creativity, personal style, buying what we love, keeping it longer, and making choices that better reflect our values, while recognizing that consumers alone cannot fix a systemic problem. Because getting dressed is personal. But the systems behind what we wear are anything but. Video Version: https://youtu.be/GHPj3GcN7rI?si=LbjSDWk1hqWQk8ld Learn more about Naa & Verta here: Email: thatpart@45Lemons.com Website: www.45lemons.com/thatpart Instagram: @fortyfivelemons

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