# Paperclips & Periods Podcast with Dr. Emily Cabrera & Katie Krych: Carry Shame around Money Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/dreamvisions-7-radio-tv-network-1499552/paperclips-periods-podcast-with-dr-emily-cabrera-katie-krych-carry-shame-around-money Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/dreamvisions-7-radio-tv-network-1499552/paperclips-periods-podcast-with-dr-emily-cabrera-katie-krych-carry-shame-around-money.md Podcast: [Dreamvisions 7 Radio & TV Network](https://stenobird.com/podcast/dreamvisions-7-radio-tv-network-1499552) Published: 2026-06-12T13:02:16+00:00 Episode link: https://www.spreaker.com/episode/paperclips-periods-podcast-with-dr-emily-cabrera-katie-krych-carry-shame-around-money--72498231 Audio file: https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72498231/dremilykatie06_12_26_pp_dual_minds_money_shame_168vb1w.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/dreamvisions-7-radio-tv-network-1499552/episodes/paperclips-periods-podcast-with-dr-emily-cabrera-katie-krych-carry-shame-around-money Duration seconds: 3541 ## Resource Episode 16: Women: What it Means to Carry Shame around Money In this episode of Paperclips & Periods, Dr. Emily K. Cabrera, EdD, MSN, CAGS, PMHNP-BC and Katie Krych, MSN, RN, PMHNP(c) explore what it means to carry shame around money and why that silence can quietly shape so much of a woman's life, her choices, her relationships, and her sense of self. Money is one of the last things women feel permission to talk about honestly. Not because the feelings are not there, but because shame has a way of making people go quiet. This episode names that silence directly and asks what it would look like to start telling the truth about money, not to fix everything at once, but to stop carrying it alone. The conversation opens with where money shame comes from in the first place. Long before we were adults making financial decisions, we were children absorbing money scripts, the unspoken rules and beliefs passed down through family, culture, and circumstance. Messages like "we don't talk about money," "there's never enough," or "wanting more is selfish" do not disappear when we grow up. They run quietly in the background and shape behavior in ways that can be hard to trace. From there, they move into the real cost of that shame. Financial stress is not separate from mental health. It activates the same stress response in the body as any other ongoing threat, and when shame is layered on top of it, it becomes even harder to look at clearly or ask for help. They also discuss what shame resilience actually looks like in practice, including how to do a financial audit without judgment, what values-based budgeting means when it is used as a clarity tool rather than a restriction, and why saying a financial truth out loud to one safe person can be a more meaningful starting point… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/dreamvisions-7-radio-tv-network-1499552/episodes/paperclips-periods-podcast-with-dr-emily-cabrera-katie-krych-carry-shame-around-money/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/dreamvisions-7-radio-tv-network-1499552/paperclips-periods-podcast-with-dr-emily-cabrera-katie-krych-carry-shame-around-money.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.