# Vaccination or natural immunity

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Podcast: [Dr. John Campbell](https://stenobird.com/podcast/dr-john-campbell-7851784)
Published: 2026-09-05T03:00:00+00:00
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COVID-19 vaccine mandates should not discriminate against natural immunity, The unnaturalistic fallacy https://jme.bmj.com/content/48/6/371 COVID-19 vaccine requirements, debate, policies should have recognised proof of natural immunity, sufficient basis for exemption to vaccination requirements. Arguments Two implausible claims about natural immunity: Natural immunity is superior to ‘artificial’ immunity It is better to acquire immunity through natural infection Naturalistic fallacy (many things are natural, but not good) (A natural public health strategy, increased overall morbidity and mortality) We lack clear and convincing scientific evidence that vaccine-induced immunity has a significantly higher protective effect than natural immunity. Vaccine requirements represent a substantial infringement of individual liberty, and other significant costs Can only be justified if they are necessary for achieving a proportionate public health benefit. Without compelling evidence for the superiority of vaccine-induced immunity, it cannot be deemed necessary to require vaccination for those with natural immunity. ‘vaccine passports’ ‘health passes’ Rationale for vaccine mandates Preventing healthcare systems becoming overwhelmed, (staff and patients) Reducing community viral transmission Acquired immunity naturally, potentially equivalent to vaccination immunity This is the unnaturalistic fallacy as opposed to the naturalistic fallacy Natural immunity and vaccine-induced immunity, evidence Equivalency of Protection From Natural Immunity in COVID-19 Recovered Versus Fully Vaccinated Persons: A Systematic Review and Pooled Analysis https://www.cureus.com/articles/72074-e All of the included studies found at least statistical equivalence between the protection of full vaccination…

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