# Ep 235: Fallacies of logic - Second Order Thinking with Juan Carlos Pineiro

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Published: 2026-02-02T21:00:31+00:00
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## Resource

Today we have a guest!! Juan Carlos Pineiro - the creator of the Re:Mind Mental Model set (and also Taylor's husband) is here to walk us through three examples of doomed scenarios that used 'Second Order Thinking' to the detriment of many! Second Order Thinking is only thinking about immediate consequences and not thinking in the long term. Like when the city of Cleveland released millions of balloons into the air in 1986, the cultural treasure that is the Biosphere 2, and when doctors set out to give vaccines to people who hadn't had them before. Three stories of things that did NOT work as expected! Learn more about the Re:Mind card deck at https://remind.coach/ and follow Juan Carlos in Instagram @readjuancarlos - https://www.instagram.com/readjuancarlos/

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