# Why I'm Happy the US Government BANNED Claude Fable — "AI in the AM" Livestream with Nathan Labenz

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Published: 2026-06-17T01:31:09+00:00
Episode link: https://lironshapira.substack.com/p/why-im-happy-the-us-government-banned
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The US government banned Claude Fable like a clown show. But I’m happy about it. Here’s my appearance on the AI in the AM livestream (recorded Tue, June 16) with Nathan Labenz and Prakash Narayanan, where I explain why this was good for society. The government’s action shows that we can actually pause AI, a precedent that matters way more than the boneheaded rationale behind Fable’s ban. We then get into a mini-AI doom debate where Prakash defends the AI optimist’s worldview. I push back on how much I expect superintelligence to reshape the planet. Timestamps 00:00:00 — Why I’m Happy the Government Banned Fable 00:11:18 — Why We Lose Control of AI 00:20:27 — The Icarus Graph: Heaven, Then Hell 00:22:33 — Get Ready to Pause 00:25:51 — What Exactly Should We Ban? 00:27:42 — Wrapping Up Links The Cognitive Revolution podcast with Nathan Labenz — https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/ Nathan Labenz on X — https://x.com/labenz Prakash Narayanan on X — https://x.com/8teapi AI in the AM on X — https://x.com/AI_in_the_AM Transcript Why I’m Happy the Government Banned Fable Nathan Labenz 00:00:08 On that note, perhaps a fitting transition to our first guest of the day. Liron Shapira is the host of Doom Debates, a YouTube channel where he has found quite a bit of success in bringing people from really all walks of life on to discuss how scared we should be of AI and just how high our P(Doom)s should be. So Liron, I’m excited to get your take on recent events. Obviously, never a dull moment in the AI space. The thing that caught my eye most from you over the last few days was when you said basically, “I want the government to be willing to take action on AI issues so badly that even if this whole Fable ban turns out to be totally boneheaded and unjustified in some local sense, you s…

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