# The Nightmare of Flying With Pets -and How it's being Fixed!

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Podcast: [Dogs and Coffee with Kelly and Rocky Kanaka](https://stenobird.com/podcast/dogs-and-coffee-with-kelly-and-rocky-kanaka-7466484)
Published: 2026-01-05T22:45:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3556

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Get Flip Coffee and Help Dogs Here: https://www.flipcoffee.com and how much does it cost to fly with your dog? Barkair is trying to make flights available for under $1,000 so but how did all of this start? Rocky, Kelly and Henrik pitch fun pet business ideas - But will they FLY?! 🤣✈️🐶 Henrik's Coffee Order: Cappuccino with low fat milk, medium roast. Dog: Molly Follow Henrik: @werdelin and @bark Henrik's Book: Me, My Customer and AI - The New Rules of Entrepreneurship Thank you for sharing to help get our adoptable dog of the week a loving home! Dog: Pumpkin! Age: 2 years old Breed: Husky/Chow Chow mix Location: Flip Farms - San Diego County Go here: https://rockykanaka.com/adoption/pumpkin-for-adoption/ And check out ALL of our adoptable dogs at: https://rockykanaka.com/adoption-list/ Get New York Times Best Selling Book Sitting with Dogs https://amzn.to/4hE9qxx Follow Rocky: @rockykanaka /https://www.instagram.com/rockykanaka/# Follow Kelly: @kelly.kanaka / https://www.instagram.com/kelly.kanaka/# BarkBox and Bark Air co-founder Henrik Werdelin joins Rocky and Kelly for a conversation that is equal parts hilarious, sharp, and surprisingly heartfelt- starting with the now-legendary cruise-ship prank that sparked a global dog brand. From there, Henrik breaks down the mindset behind building BarkBox, Bark in the Belly, and Bark Air, the first airline designed entirely around dogs. Henrik shares why he rejects the idea of "playbook founders," why he trusts instinct over consensus, and why he still stands by the straight-shooting comments he made in an Animal Planet pitch meeting with Rocky years ago. He also opens up about idea generation, risk, creative friction, and why solving problems for dogs is often easier, and more joyful, than solving them for humans. PLUS: Rock…

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