# The Psychology of Dog Training | Jacqui Zakar on Freedom, Science & The Force-Free Divide

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Podcast: [Doggie Stoic](https://stenobird.com/podcast/doggie-stoic-7686006)
Published: 2026-02-10T13:04:00+00:00
Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/doggie-stoic/2535324
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Duration seconds: 4789

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In this episode of Doggie Stoic, Andrew sits down with Jacqui Zakar, founder of Dog Sense Training in Perth, Australia — a respected voice in the dog training world known for her balanced, psychology-based approach and her push for open dialogue between force-free and balanced communities They go deep into the science and philosophy of modern dog training — from psychology to play, punishment, and the real-world application of counter-conditioning. Jacqui’s background in psychology and experience across multiple industries gives her a uniquely logical, evidence-based perspective on how humans and dogs learn together. This conversation challenges assumptions, bridges ideological divides, and gives trainers and owners alike a new way to think about freedom, structure, and emotional balance.

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