# #295 Rethinking How We Categorize Shoes Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/doctors-of-running-podcast-696708/295-rethinking-how-we-categorize-shoes Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/doctors-of-running-podcast-696708/295-rethinking-how-we-categorize-shoes.md Podcast: [Doctors of Running Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/doctors-of-running-podcast-696708) Published: 2026-05-27T06:24:00+00:00 Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/doctors-of-running/episodes/295-Rethinking-How-We-Categorize-Shoes-e3jsq4v Audio file: https://anchor.fm/s/25eaeb18/podcast/play/120530527/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-25%2F95608c4b-bdcf-a6ea-777f-16ad36703c3f.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/doctors-of-running-podcast-696708/episodes/295-rethinking-how-we-categorize-shoes Duration seconds: 3762 ## Resource Matt and Andrea work through a range of shoes they've been testing, sharing thoughts on the direction Saucony and Brooks are heading, Andrea's track spike adventures, and a mix of recent pickups including the Asics Kayano 33 and On Cloudmonster Hyper LS. The conversation then shifts to a broader question: whether the way we currently categorize running shoes has gotten overcomplicated, using the Brooks Hyperion Max 4, Mizuno Hyperwarp Pro, Saucony Endorphin Pro 5, Endorphin Azura, and more as jumping-off points for discussion. What do you think? How do you categorize shoes? We'd love feedback! Email us at doctorsofrunning@gmail.com. Get your DOR Merch: https://doctors-of-running.myspreadshop.com/ Rabbit is the presenting partner of our podcast. You can use code MAYDOCS10 to get 10% off your entire order of $50.00 or more. Note that the code is limited to one use per customer and can't be combined with other discounts. The code is active from 1st of every month to last day at 11:59PM PST, but don't worry because we'll be bringing you a new code every month. Shop now at https://www.runinrabbit.com . Our In For Testing segment is fueled by Skratch Labs! Get 20% off your first order from Skratch with code: DOCTORSOFRUNNING ! https://www.skratchlabs.com Chapters 0:00 - Intro 6:18 - In for Testing: Powered by Skratch Labs 10:34 - Thoughts on Saucony's new shoes 16:42 - Thoughts on the direction Brooks is going 23:36 - Andrea's track spike adventures 26:31 - Asics Kayano 33, On Cloudmonster Hyper LS, and others 36:00 - Rethinking how we categorize shoes 40:54 - Where does the Brooks Hyperion Max 4 fit? 47:16 - Mizuno Hyperwarp Pro 50:02 - Saucony Endorphin Pro 5 54:02 - Endorphin Azura 59:08 - Brooks Hyperion Max v1 1:01:04 - Wrap-up ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/doctors-of-running-podcast-696708/episodes/295-rethinking-how-we-categorize-shoes/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/doctors-of-running-podcast-696708/295-rethinking-how-we-categorize-shoes.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.