# Episode 63: Church in America- System or Ecosystem? part 2

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Published: 2026-01-30T17:02:00+00:00
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## Resource

We’re back with a DMM Download focused on church being a system or ecosystem. Systems are built and ordered while ecosystems are organic, messy, flexible. They are more like a garden than a machine. Church in America seems to build church system rather than nurturing God’s church ecosystem. This is part 2 of the mini series.

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