# Episode 58: Church in America- System or Ecosystem?

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Published: 2025-12-27T17:02:00+00:00
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## Resource

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! We end 2025 with a DMM Download focused on church being a system or ecosystem. Systems are built and ordered while ecosystems are organic, messy, flexible. They are more like a garden than a machine. Church in America seems to build church system rather than nurturing God’s church ecosystem.

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