# Ed Bayes - Designing 6 months into the future at OpenAI

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Published: 2026-09-09T12:57:35+00:00
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## Resource

This week's episode is with Ed Bayes and we're doing a deep dive into how designers at OpenAI prototype the future of Codex/ChatGPT Work. Some highlights: - How prototyping at OpenAI has shifted recently - The design challenges of bringing Codex into ChatGPT - How Ed thinks about the spectrum of dynamic interfaces - How Codex thought about their information architecture bets - Why Ed structures design teams around personas not features - The traits of the designers making the biggest impact at OpenAI - + a lot more The Bitter Lesson ( http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html ) — ML essay he referenced on scaffolding and model releases

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