# Ep 164. The UN’s Last Chance to Save the World? With Lord Robertson & Antonio Patriota

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Published: 2026-01-27T02:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3300

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It’s telling to hear NATO’s future is not “guaranteed” according to a former NATO boss. After a jaw-dropping US threat to take Greenland shocked the world. President Trump’s first year back in power is also overshadowing the United Nations' 80th milestone. Prompting calls to retool the world’s top diplomat. In this episode of Disorder, hosted by Mark Lobel, the former head of NATO tells Disorder we should make the United Nations Secretary-General the "chairman" of the Security Council. Brazil’s former Ambassador to the United Nations says the role should be a single mandate term of six or seven years, "to retain the willingness to displease certain sources of power”. Recorded at a special UNA-UK event, George Robertson and Ambassador Antonio Patriota reveal how Donald Trump’s disorderly approach is causing a major re-think of organisations and leadership in the world. Speaking in the same building that ushered in the United Nations General Assembly in 1946, exactly 80 years ago this month. The Brazilian Ambassador to the UK didn't hold back ... On Venezuela: “I feel very uncomfortable as a South American to witness an intervention that is a flagrant violation of international law.” On Nigel Farage joining climate talks: “I don’t think (he's) very eager to engage on this topic” On presenting the Nobel Peace Prize to Trump: “As a South American, I felt embarrassed by this gesture, because I don’t think it enhances anybody’s dignity to do that.” Plus - George Robertson tips a British politician as the next big thing ... and it’s not who you expect! Stay news of a special live event with Disorder and the UNA-UK for mega orderers, and to join our Mega Orderers Club and come along, and get ad-free listening, early release episodes, and bonus content, visit https://disorder.s…

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