# Episode 246: Alejandro Jodorowsky (feat. Mike White & Heather Drain)

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Podcast: [Director's Club](https://stenobird.com/podcast/director-s-club-1054745)
Published: 2026-03-25T04:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://jimlaczkowski.net
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## Resource

Where to begin discussing a filmmaker like Jodorowsky? Obviously I had heard of him and had seen the documentary, Jodorowsky's Dune , but it was until last year that I sat down to watch The Holy Mountain , knowing I was going to do this episode a few months later. Thanks to Sharon, I have now seen not only one of my new favorite movies, but discovered a new favorite director. Alongside my other favorites: PT Anderson, David Lynch and Sam Raimi, Jodorowsky has something in common with all of them - he treats cinema like a playground of the subconscious or an empty canvas that reflects reality, both bleak and beautiful. To affirm my newly found love are two podcasters/film scholars that I've been meaning to talk with on the show for a long time: Mike White (host of the Projection Booth) and the great Heather Drain! Our main reviews focus on The Holy Mountain and Santa Sangre , but Jodo's other work comes up throughout as well. There are laughs, fireworks, acid trips and digressions galore all in the spirit of a true artist who has likely changes lives, befuddled others and created remarkable art that is truly all his own. The first hour focuses on The Holy Mountain, while the second jumps into Santa Sangre and so much more. No time stamps necessary for this wild journey! Hope you enjoy and be sure to seek out both these two films alongside another masterpiece, El Topo! Follow Mike White: https://www.projectionboothpodcast.com Follow Heather Drain: https://www.mondoheather.com Other references to The Holy Mountain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IAG8JdShaI

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