# 43: Inside the Charging Hardware Business with Autel's Dario Pagani

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Podcast: [Directly Current: EVs for All America](https://stenobird.com/podcast/directly-current-evs-for-all-america-7012174)
Published: 2026-07-21T14:15:40+00:00
Episode link: https://audioboom.com/posts/8930657
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## Resource

Dario Pagani transitioned from ChargePoint to Autel Energy years ago as the compancy, once a scan-tool manufacturer from Shenzhen, was building out its transition to charging hardware with a North Carolina factory and California-based innovation center. He's ready to share some of the trends he's seen in both the level 2 (slow) and DC (fast) charging industries for EVs, where market and incentive structures are shaping a lucrative but novel business that's part-construction, part-manufacturing reliant on global supply chains, and part-technology company. Max and Dario go over - The aggressive pace of EV charging relative to modest EV passenger adoption in the US - The challenges since COVID of being a global manufacturer who produces their own hardware - The evolution of his role from being at a CPO (Charge Point Operator) to a company that ships interoperable hardware that is flexible - Trends he's seeing in the charging business as retail and multifamily adoption grows 🎙️ Listen on Apple, Spotify, or your favorite podcast platform Resources and Links: Check out Dario's LinkedIn ⚡ Stay Plugged In Support EVs for All America (and buy our merch!)

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