# 42: China, Detroit, and the Hybrid Moment with Jamie Butters (Auto Town Radio)

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Podcast: [Directly Current: EVs for All America](https://stenobird.com/podcast/directly-current-evs-for-all-america-7012174)
Published: 2026-06-30T15:59:49+00:00
Episode link: https://audioboom.com/posts/8922613
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## Resource

Jamie Butters was the Editor in Chief of Automotive News, has covered the Motor City at outlets like the Wall Street Journal, and is hosting a regular radio show called Auto Town speaking to folks inside the American car industry. Max speaks with him to get an idea at how Detroit is doing in the current US moment where oil prices are high, consumers love hybrids, and fuel standards are absent, giving automakers a spout of relief but also uncertainty for the future ahead as Chinese cars continue their global conquest abroad. Max and Jamie go over - The pause in fuel economy standards giving American automakers relief - Hybrid portfolios and the hype over "EREVs" in Detroit - The tension of value per dollar to the consumer and privacy/national domestic manufacturing that Chinese EVs present to North America - The enduring, emotional appeal of combustion to enthusiasts 🎙️ Listen on Apple, Spotify, or your favorite podcast platform Resources and Links: Listen to Jamie's Auto Town on Radio or Podcast Feeds ⚡ Stay Plugged In Support EVs for All America (and buy our merch!)

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