# 40: The Future of the Grid and EVs, with Zach Woogen (VGIC)

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Podcast: [Directly Current: EVs for All America](https://stenobird.com/podcast/directly-current-evs-for-all-america-7012174)
Published: 2026-04-21T13:45:56+00:00
Episode link: https://audioboom.com/posts/8893371
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Duration seconds: 2064

## Resource

Many new EVs like GM's EV pickup trucks, Ford's upcoming UEV, and Tesla's Cybertruck are capable of exporting onboard power from their large batteries into someone's home to act as a bckup generator, or even back into the grid to act as a grid stabilizer that could save people money on their bill each month. This is the promise of vehicle-to-grid. However,. the rules around vehicle-grid interconnection are fractured, local, and still nascent. Zach and his team at the Vehicle Grid Integration Council (VGIC) have been working to change that, making sure EVs and utilities are ready for the future in a safe, responsible way. Max and Zach go over - The bottlenecks to adoption that have slowed the technology - The promise VGI has for a more strained than ever grid - The work some states like Maryland have done to advance the ball - The interoperability problem around vehicles, chargers, and gateway switches - Driving down the cost of V2G systems, which are expensive today 🎙️ Listen on Apple, Spotify, or your favorite podcast platform Resources and Links: Check out VGIC's work Follow Zach on LinkedIn ⚡ Stay Plugged In Support EVs for All America (and buy our merch!)

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