# Naomi Brockwell Exposes The Government's Horrifying Civilian Tracker | DSH #2060

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Podcast: [Digital Social Hour](https://stenobird.com/podcast/digital-social-hour-6161133)
Published: 2026-07-11T16:46:47+00:00
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| DSH #2060 Your phone is not just a device. It may be the most powerful tracking tool you own. In this Digital Social Hour episode, Sean Kelly sits down with privacy expert Naomi Brockwell at the Bitcoin Conference to discuss government surveillance, data brokers, app tracking, encrypted messaging, AI privacy, VPNs, smartphones, and how much personal information people give away without realizing it. Naomi explains how third-party trackers can collect location data, contacts, browsing activity, app usage, and behavioral patterns. She also breaks down how governments can purchase or request that information without using the traditional warrant process. The conversation covers Pegasus spyware, Signal versus WhatsApp, GrapheneOS, private browsers, encrypted email, Google tracking, AI chat history, targeted advertising, and practical steps people can take to protect themselves online. Naomi also discusses the Surveillance Accountability Act and why privacy is not only about hiding information. It is about preserving free thought, independence, and the right to speak without constantly feeling watched. CHAPTERS 0:00 Hidden Trackers and Government Surveillance 0:28 Naomi Brockwell at the Bitcoin Conference 1:03 How Apps Collect and Sell Your Data 1:53 Living Without a SIM Card 3:06 Bitcoin, Privacy, and Authoritarian Governments 5:28 Corporate Spying and Self-Censorship 7:43 Signal, iMessage, Siri, and Spyware 10:24 VPNs, IP Addresses, and Privacy Risks 11:20 The Fourth Amendment and Surveillance Loopholes 13:48 AI Surveillance, Data Brokers, Private Apps, and Final Advice WHAT YOU’LL LEARN 📱 Why Naomi describes smartphones as digital ankle monitors 🔍 How apps can contain dozens of hidden trackers 🏛️ How governments access personal data without traditional warrants 🔐 Why S…

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