# Michael Shermer Vs. Sean McDowell On Does God Exist? | DSH #2117

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Podcast: [Digital Social Hour](https://stenobird.com/podcast/digital-social-hour-6161133)
Published: 2026-08-26T17:00:16+00:00
Episode link: https://digital-social-hour.simplecast.com/
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Does God exist, and can either side actually prove it? In this episode of Digital Social Hour, skeptic Michael Shermer and Christian apologist Dr. Sean McDowell face off in a 45-minute debate recorded at FreedomFest, tackling one of philosophy's oldest and most contested questions. McDowell opens by arguing that consciousness, the origin of the universe, and the fine-tuning of physical constants all point beyond a purely naturalistic explanation. He lays out his case for an intelligent agent behind the universe and challenges Shermer to explain where a materialist worldview accounts for these same phenomena. Shermer pushes back point by point, arguing that the mind is simply what the brain does, questioning claims around near-death experiences and terminal lucidity, and pressing McDowell on how a creator could implant consciousness in the first place. The two also spar over free will, the Big Bang as a possible beginning, and how someone could ever adjudicate between competing religious claims. Watch until the end to hear Shermer put a number on exactly how confident he is that God doesn't exist, and to hear McDowell make his closing case for the resurrection of Jesus as a historically testable claim. CHAPTERS 00:00:00 – Cold Open: Does God Exist? 00:00:26 – Setting the Prompt at FreedomFest 00:00:36 – McDowell's Opening: Consciousness and Fine-Tuning 00:02:19 – Shermer's Response: The Case Against 00:05:38 – The Mind-Brain Problem 00:13:15 – Near-Death Experiences and Terminal Lucidity 00:17:47 – Dualism: Is the Mind More Than the Brain? 00:20:37 – Could God Implant Consciousness? 00:27:52 – The Big Bang and Inflation 00:30:39 – Free Will and Determinism 00:40:06 – Fine-Tuning and Multiple Gods 00:44:18 – Shermer's Confidence Number 00:45:37 – The Resurrection as a Hi…

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