# I Was Charlie Kirk's Side When He Was Taken Out... | DSH #2065

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Podcast: [Digital Social Hour](https://stenobird.com/podcast/digital-social-hour-6161133)
Published: 2026-07-15T17:43:55+00:00
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| DSH #2065 Can faith, reason, and politics still survive in a culture built on outrage? In this Digital Social Hour episode, Sean Kelly sits down with Frank Turek from CrossExamined to discuss Charlie Kirk, Christian apologetics, college campuses, free speech, faith, Islam, Israel, media bias, social media outrage, entrepreneurship, family, inflation, politics, abortion, and the future of American culture. Frank reflects on his friendship with Charlie Kirk, what he taught him about Christian apologetics, and why he believes Charlie’s real strength was not just intelligence, but humility and a willingness to keep learning. The conversation moves into the biggest cultural debates happening on college campuses, including free speech, religion, immigration, assimilation, Israel, Islam, LGBTQ issues, gender, and why short clips often distort complex topics into outrage. Frank also explains why he believes faith should be defended with evidence, not emotion. He discusses the case for God, the resurrection, the Bible, morality, evil, mathematics, simulation theory, and why he believes reality points to a designer. Later, the episode covers entrepreneurship, being fired from corporate America, Gen Z’s search for meaning, family breakdown, inflation, housing affordability, Trump’s second term, Christian principles in politics, abortion, forgiveness, and why Frank believes truth must matter more than feelings. CHAPTERS 0:00 Charlie Kirk, Heaven, and the Opening Claims 3:03 UC Berkeley, Free Speech, and Charlie’s Legacy 5:32 Islam, Sharia Law, Assimilation, and American Freedom 13:20 Social Media Clips, Outrage, and Hasty Generalizations 23:09 Agnosticism, Simulation Theory, Mathematics, and God 29:40 Faith, Evidence, Resurrection, and the Problem of Evil 38:53 Gen Z, Purpose, F…

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