# Are There Still Apostles and Prophets Today? Cessationism vs. Continuationism Explained Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/dial-in-with-jonny-ardavanis-460773/are-there-still-apostles-and-prophets-today-cessationism-vs-continuationism-explained Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/dial-in-with-jonny-ardavanis-460773/are-there-still-apostles-and-prophets-today-cessationism-vs-continuationism-explained.md Podcast: [Dial In with Jonny Ardavanis](https://stenobird.com/podcast/dial-in-with-jonny-ardavanis-460773) Published: 2026-08-04T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.dialinministries.org Audio file: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/87df6d54-7d1f-438f-8a75-8412ca830067.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/dial-in-with-jonny-ardavanis-460773/episodes/are-there-still-apostles-and-prophets-today-cessationism-vs-continuationism-explained Duration seconds: 2150 ## Resource Are there apostles and prophets today? In this episode, we break down the difference between cessationism, continuationism, and charismatic theology β€” and answer the question so many Christians are asking as self-proclaimed "apostles" and "prophets" (like Katherine Krick and leaders in the New Apostolic Reformation/NAR movement) gain massive followings online. We define the key terms β€” cessationist, continuationist, and charismatic β€” then walk through: πŸ”Ή The 3 biblical criteria for a prophet in the Old Testament (Deuteronomy 18, Deuteronomy 13, Jeremiah 28) πŸ”Ή The 3 biblical criteria for an apostle in the New Testament (Acts 1, Ephesians 2:20, 2 Corinthians 12:12) πŸ”Ή How to think about Romans 12, 1 Corinthians 14, and 1 Thessalonians 5:20 on prophecy πŸ”Ή The difference between "thus says the Lord" and "I feel like God is putting this on my heart" πŸ”Ή What church history (Chrysostom, Augustine, Calvin, Edwards, Spurgeon) says about the miraculous gifts πŸ”Ή Why the sufficiency of Scripture matters in this conversation πŸ”Ή A fair, respectful look at continuationist scholars like John Piper, Wayne Grudem, and Sam Storms β€” and how they differ from figures like Kenneth Copeland, Bill Johnson, and Bethel Church This isn't a hit piece β€” it's a biblical, historically grounded framework for thinking through spiritual gifts, prophecy, apostleship, and the Holy Spirit's work in the church today. πŸ“– Key Scriptures Referenced: Deuteronomy 13, Deuteronomy 18, Jeremiah 28, Acts 1, Romans 12, 1 Corinthians 14, Ephesians 2:20, Ephesians 4:11, 1 Thessalonians 5:20, 2 Corinthians 12:12, Hebrews 2 πŸŽ“ This episode is brought to you by The Master's University β€” 150+ fields of study built on a biblical worldview. Learn more: masters.edu/dialin (use code DIALIN to waive your application fee) ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/dial-in-with-jonny-ardavanis-460773/episodes/are-there-still-apostles-and-prophets-today-cessationism-vs-continuationism-explained/transcription-requests` β€” Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/dial-in-with-jonny-ardavanis-460773/are-there-still-apostles-and-prophets-today-cessationism-vs-continuationism-explained.md` β€” Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.