# The Sutta on Debt

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Published: 2026-06-16T17:33:10+00:00
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The Sutta on Debt “Is poverty, bhikkhus, suffering in the world for one who enjoys sensual pleasures?” “Yes, Bhante.” “That a poor, destitute, and unfortunate person takes a loan—is taking a loan, bhikkhus, suffering in the world for one who enjoys sensual pleasures?” “Yes, Bhante.” “That a poor, destitute, and unfortunate person, having taken a loan, agrees to interest—is interest, bhikkhus, suffering in the world for one who enjoys sensual pleasures?” “Yes, Bhante.” “That a poor, destitute, and unfortunate person, having agreed to interest, does not pay the interest when due, and they press him—is pressing, bhikkhus, suffering in the world for one who enjoys sensual pleasures?” “Yes, Bhante.” “That a poor, destitute, and unfortunate person, being pressed, does not pay, and they pursue him—is pursuing, bhikkhus, suffering in the world for one who enjoys sensual pleasures?” “Yes, Bhante.” “And also, bhikkhus, when a poor, propertyless, destitute person, being pursued, does not give, they imprison him; is imprisonment, bhikkhus, suffering in the world for a pleasure-seeker?” “Yes, Venerable Sir.” “Thus, bhikkhus, poverty is suffering in the world for a pleasure-seeker; taking on debt is suffering in the world for a pleasure-seeker; interest is suffering in the world for a pleasure-seeker; dunning is suffering in the world for a pleasure-seeker; pursuit is suffering in the world for a pleasure-seeker; imprisonment is suffering in the world for a pleasure-seeker. In the same way, bhikkhus, whoever has no faith in wholesome states, no shame in wholesome states, no dread in wholesome states, no energy in wholesome states, no wisdom in wholesome states—this one, bhikkhus, is called poor, propertyless, and destitute in the Noble One’s Discipline. “That poor, propertyless, des…

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