# You Have to Fail to Succeed (ft. Jennifer Miles-Thomas)

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Podcast: [DGTL Voices with Ed Marx](https://stenobird.com/podcast/dgtl-voices-with-ed-marx-2162299)
Published: 2026-06-18T13:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://dgtlvoices.podbean.com/e/you-have-to-fail-to-succeed-ft-jennifer-miles-thomas/
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Duration seconds: 1611

## Resource

Dr. Jennifer Miles-Thomas is Vice Chair of Integration and Innovation at Northwestern Medicine, Executive Treasurer of the American Urological Association, and a former CEO of one of the largest private urology groups in the country. She earned her MD at Northwestern, completed her residency and fellowship at Johns Hopkins, and her MBA at MIT Sloan. In this episode of DGTL Voices, Jennifer talks with Ed about the spinal meningitis diagnosis at age three that pointed her toward medicine, what changed when she got to MIT and started thinking alongside multinational CFOs and SpaceX engineers, and why she left a CEO seat for protected innovation time at a health system. She shares her perspective as a Black female urologist on what it took to navigate her training, how she leads through really listening, and why she believes failure is part of the path to anything worth building. https://marxadvisory.com

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