# James Perkins - Unkey

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Podcast: [devtools.fm: Developer Tools, Open Source, Software Development](https://stenobird.com/podcast/devtools-fm)
Published: 2023-11-06T01:32:37+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/devtoolsfm/episodes/James-Perkins---Unkey-e2bhh5t
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## Resource

In this week's insightful conversation, we feature James Perkins, the co-founder of Unkey. James discusses his experiences at Clerk, his career transition to co-founding Unkey, and his thoughts on the future direction of backend services. He shares the challenging reality of balancing two programming jobs at once and underscores the necessity for strong security practices in every tech startup. https://twitter.com/james_r_perkins https://clerk.com/ https://unkey.dev/devtools.fm Want to sponsor the podcast? Head on over to https://devtools.fm/sponsor to get started. Shop devtools.fm merch => https://shop.devtools.fm Become a paid subscriber our patreon, spotify, or apple podcasts for the full episode. https://www.patreon.com/devtoolsfm https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/devtoolsfm/subscribe https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/devtools-fm/id1566647758 https://www.youtube.com/@devtoolsfm/membership Tooltips Andrew https://github.com/intel/Wasmnizer-ts https://carton.run/ Justin https://github.com/laurentpayot/verticalize https://deno.com/blog/queues James https://reflect.app/ https://www.risecalendar.com/ https://www.hanko.io/

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