# Isaac Schlueter - npm, Tier

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Podcast: [devtools.fm: Developer Tools, Open Source, Software Development](https://stenobird.com/podcast/devtools-fm)
Published: 2023-11-13T01:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

This week we talk with Isaac Schlueter, a founder at npm and Tier. We talk about the creation of npm, the early days of node, and the transition from CJS to ESM in node. We delve into the challenges of running a package registry (and a company) and his new company Tier. Tier is building a new way to define pricing for your products. https://github.com/isaacs https://www.tier.run https://node-tap.org https://fosstodon.org/@isaacs https://twitter.com/izs Episode sponsored By Raycast ( https://www.raycast.com/ ) Become a paid subscriber our patreon, spotify, or apple podcasts for the full episode. https://www.patreon.com/devtoolsfm https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/devtoolsfm/subscribe https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/devtools-fm/id1566647758 https://www.youtube.com/@devtoolsfm/membership

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