# DOP 367: Zero-Human Companies Still Need Humans

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Podcast: [DevOps Paradox](https://stenobird.com/podcast/devops-paradox)
Published: 2026-09-09T10:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.devopsparadox.com/episodes/zero-human-companies-still-need-humans-367/
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## Resource

#367: Every few weeks another pitch lands. A company with no employees, just a founder and an army of AI agents. Zero headcount. Zero payroll. Then the AI CMO hallucinates a marketing campaign and somebody has to catch it. Viktor runs the numbers on his own one-person operation. He can review maybe five things a night. Want a hundred a day? That is nineteen more people. The math is not kind to the pitch. In this episode, Darin and Viktor discuss why zero-human is the new serverless, and where the humans actually go once the agents are doing the work. YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/devopsparadox Review the podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://www.devopsparadox.com/review-podcast/ Slack: https://www.devopsparadox.com/slack/ Connect with us at: https://www.devopsparadox.com/contact/

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