# Special edition: The real funding gap isn't money

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Published: 2026-09-15T06:56:27+00:00
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## Resource

In this special episode of the This Week in Global Development podcast, sponsored by Rippleworks, Devex Senior Editor for Special Coverage Catherine Cheney sits down with Doug Galen, CEO of Rippleworks, and Azeez Gupta, co-founder of Rocket Learning, to reimagine how philanthropy thinks about scale. As foreign aid budgets shrink, most conversations stop at the number cut. This one asks a different question: What if the real constraint isn’t how much capital is available, but what that capital is allowed to pay for? Unpacking Rocket Learning’s growth through sustained operational support, the conversation makes the case that flexible, founder-friendly capital shouldn’t be the exception in philanthropy — it should be the default.

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