# José Valim, creator of Elixir: building a language from curiosity, not trends | Evil Martians podcast

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Podcast: [Dev Propulsion Labs](https://stenobird.com/podcast/dev-propulsion-labs-6704290)
Published: 2025-06-30T12:00:24+00:00
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## Resource

José Valim, creator of Elixir and founder of Dashbit, sits down with Victoria Melnikova to talk about how following curiosity over market trends led him to build one of the most loved programming languages. He shares why he made technical decisions over adoption-friendly ones, how decentralizing the community let Elixir reach domains he never imagined, and what he's building with Tidewave — higher-level AI tools that understand web frameworks, not just code. Victoria Melnikova is a business and go-to-market expert for developer tools and AI, and host of Dev Propulsion Labs. She works with 40+ early-stage startups a year as Head of New Business at Evil Martians. https://x.com/vmelnikova_en Evil Martians is a design and engineering consultancy for developer tools, AI, and cybersecurity startups. https://evilmartians.com/

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