# Ivan Burazin, CEO of Daytona: walking from $300K ARR to build for agents | Evil Martians podcast Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/dev-propulsion-labs-6704290/ivan-burazin-ceo-of-daytona-walking-from-300k-arr-to-build-for-agents-evil-martians-podcast Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/dev-propulsion-labs-6704290/ivan-burazin-ceo-of-daytona-walking-from-300k-arr-to-build-for-agents-evil-martians-podcast.md Podcast: [Dev Propulsion Labs](https://stenobird.com/podcast/dev-propulsion-labs-6704290) Published: 2025-11-12T15:32:06+00:00 Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/dpl/2320703 Audio file: https://content.rss.com/episodes/239660/2320703/dpl/2025_11_11_00_10_44_39ad62ef-c898-4dfd-a44e-91b0aebd9626.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/dev-propulsion-labs-6704290/episodes/ivan-burazin-ceo-of-daytona-walking-from-300k-arr-to-build-for-agents-evil-martians-podcast Duration seconds: 2410 ## Resource Ivan Burazin, CEO and founder of Daytona, sits down with Victoria Melnikova to talk about why he walked away from $300K ARR to rebuild his company from scratch for the age of AI agents. He explains why agents will outnumber humans to the power of ten, how Daytona creates composable computers that agents can spin up on demand, and what it means to race competitors on a moving train. Ivan shares hard-won lessons from 16 years building cloud development environments — starting with Codeanywhere in 2009, a decade before the market was ready. Victoria Melnikova is a business and go-to-market expert for developer tools and AI, and host of Dev Propulsion Labs. She works with 40+ early-stage startups a year as Head of New Business at Evil Martians. https://x.com/vmelnikova_en Evil Martians is a design and engineering consultancy for developer tools, AI, and cybersecurity startups. https://evilmartians.com/ Recorded at Chroma. Vector, full-text, regex, and metadata search. Develop locally and scale to petabytes in the cloud backed by object storage. Serverless search and retrieval that is fast, cheap, and reliable. https://www.trychroma.com ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/dev-propulsion-labs-6704290/episodes/ivan-burazin-ceo-of-daytona-walking-from-300k-arr-to-build-for-agents-evil-martians-podcast/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/dev-propulsion-labs-6704290/ivan-burazin-ceo-of-daytona-walking-from-300k-arr-to-build-for-agents-evil-martians-podcast.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.