# 172: Triple-pane Bird-Friendly Glass | Ryerson Woods Education Center

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Published: 2026-04-24T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, Cherise is joined by Matt Wallace, Partner, and John Taylor (or JT) Schaffhauser, Associate at Lake Flato Architects with offices in San Antonio and Austin, Texas, and Portland, Oregon. They discuss the Ryerson Woods Education Center in Deerfield, Illinois. You can see the project here as you listen along. Situated at the threshold between woodland and water along the Des Plaines River, the Ryerson Woods Education Center emerges as both refuge and instrument—an architecture that listens as much as it teaches. Positioned within the delicate ecology of the flatwoods, the building does not assert itself over the landscape, but instead operates as a quiet mediator, framing the rhythms of the forest while inviting visitors into a deeper understanding of its systems. Part of this system that integrates respect for nature is the exterior’s triple-pane bird-friendly glass, the first of its kind to be certified Phius in the U.S. If you enjoy this episode, visit arcat.com/podcast for more. If you're a frequent listener of Detailed, you might enjoy similar content at Gābl Media . Mentioned in this episode: Social Channel Pre-roll Promotes the YouTube channel, ARACTemy, and social handle.

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