# 165: Inside-Out Design | Fifth & Tillery

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Published: 2026-03-06T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, Cherise is joined by Travis Albrecht, Studio Director and Principal, and Michael Waddell, Senior Associate and Design Director at Gensler in their Austin, Texas office. They discuss the Fifth and Tillery office building in Austin. You can see the project here as you listen along. At the seam between East Austin’s quiet neighborhoods and the grit of its industrial past, Fifth + Tillery begins with an act of restraint. Instead of expanding outward, the project turns inward—reclaiming a neglected warehouse and reimagining its bones as a porous, living campus for work and community. The result is not a new monument, but a renewed place: a building that remembers where it came from while pointing toward what cities can become. If you enjoy this episode, visit arcat.com/podcast for more. If you're a frequent listener of Detailed, you might enjoy similar content at Gābl Media . Mentioned in this episode: Social Channel Pre-roll Promotes the YouTube channel, ARACTemy, and social handle.

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