# Piera Gelardi

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Podcast: [Design Matters with Debbie Millman](https://stenobird.com/podcast/design-matters-with-debbie-millman-415306)
Published: 2026-06-29T13:06:55+00:00
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Duration seconds: 4091

## Resource

Piera Gelardi is a creative entrepreneur, writer, New York Times bestselling author, and co-founder of Refinery29, the media company that helped redefine digital media for a generation of women. She joins to discuss her new book, The Playful Way, which explores how play, curiosity, and creativity can help us navigate work, relationships, and everyday life. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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