# Cy Gavin

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Podcast: [Design Matters with Debbie Millman](https://stenobird.com/podcast/design-matters-with-debbie-millman-415306)
Published: 2026-04-20T09:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/design-matters/episodes/cy-gavin
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Duration seconds: 2935

## Resource

Cy Gavin is a painter whose work resists easy categorization, moving between figuration and abstraction, landscape and memory, and exploring perception through material, atmosphere, and inquiry. In this live conversation at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, he joins to discuss his unconventional upbringing, his shift away from drawing, and what it means to embrace uncertainty in the creative process. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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